{"id":947,"date":"2017-09-21T15:02:21","date_gmt":"2017-09-21T22:02:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/pnwfolklore.org\/wp-nwhoot\/?p=947"},"modified":"2017-11-29T11:47:44","modified_gmt":"2017-11-29T18:47:44","slug":"if-you-know-who-wrote-it-its-not-a-folk-song-by-michael-cooney","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/pnwfolklore.org\/wp-nwhoot\/index.php\/2017\/09\/21\/if-you-know-who-wrote-it-its-not-a-folk-song-by-michael-cooney\/","title":{"rendered":"If You Know Who Wrote It, It&#8217;s Not A Folk Song, by Michael Cooney"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/pnwfolklore.org\/MichaelCooney.jpg\" width=\"600\" height=\"393\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-body-p\"><span class=\"body-c-c1\">The late Kenneth Goldstein of Philadelphia was one of the great American folklorists. (<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c0\">He was also a generous man who shared his knowledge and vast library of recordings, books, etc.<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c1\">, <\/span><span class=\"body-c-c0\">and his home, with people like me.<\/span> <span class=\"body-c-c0\">I will be ever grateful to him and his gracious wife Rochelle for their hospitality.<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c1\">) Every couple of years I\u2019d ask Dr. Goldstein his current definition of &#8220;folk music&#8221;. It was ever-changing. The first time I asked him, he told me that folk music was &#8220;<em>anything sung by a small group of people for the entertainment of those people at that time<\/em>&#8220;.<\/span><!--more--><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-body-p\"><span class=\"body-c-c1\">&#8220;<em>So,<\/em>&#8221; I asked, &#8220;<em>if we\u2019re all standing around the piano singing <\/em><\/span><em><span class=\"body-c-c2\">I Left My Heart In San Francisco<\/span><\/em><span class=\"body-c-c1\"><em>, that\u2019s a folk song at that time?<\/em>&#8221; He said he thought it was.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-body-p\"><span class=\"body-c-c1\">What follows is not The Truth; it\u2019s just my opinion (<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c0\">which is about the only way you can really define &#8220;truth&#8221;, seems to me &#8212; truth is whatever I, and everyone who thinks like me, say it is<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c1\">). Also, in this, and any, discussion, the word &#8220;good&#8221; means &#8220;pleasing to me&#8221; (<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c0\">Ditto.<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c1\">) But this is not about whether certain songs are &#8220;good&#8221; or not; it\u2019s about whether they\u2019re &#8220;folk&#8221; or not. Just because a song is a folk song doesn\u2019t automatically mean it\u2019s good. I don\u2019t sing folk songs because I think they\u2019re holy or noble; each one of the songs I sing,&#8221;folk&#8221; or not, is, to me, a wonderful song, for one or more reasons. Otherwise, why bother learning it? Which is my point.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-body-p\"><span class=\"body-c-c1\">If there\u2019s such a thing as a &#8220;folk&#8221; song, that implies that it\u2019s a kind of song which is different from other kinds of songs. What makes it different? It can\u2019t be what the song is about &#8212; most folk songs are basically about what most other songs are about. And it can\u2019t be because the person singing it is playing a particular kind of instrument. (<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c0\">A guitar, for instance &#8212; lots of non-folk music is played on guitars. In fact, most of the music played on guitars is non-folk music.)<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c1\"> What is it then?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-body-p\"><span class=\"body-c-c1\">According to an old legend, blues singer Big Bill Broonzy was once being interviewed on a radio program in Chicago by Studs Terkle. Big Bill sang a song, after which Studs asked, &#8220;<em>Is that a folk song?<\/em>&#8221; Broonzy replied, &#8220;<em>I ain\u2019t never heard no horses sing it<\/em>.&#8221; By that definition (<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c0\">non horse-music<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c1\">), all music is folk music. Fun, but not very useful.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-body-p\"><span class=\"body-c-c1\">We\u2019re not tape-recorders, so when we hear <\/span><span class=\"body-c-c3\">a song we like so much that we learn it<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c1\">, often in the process we accidentally, or accidentally-on-purpose, or purposely, change words and bits of the tune. If someone learns the song from us, it&#8217;s likely that they\u2019ll also change it some. The more people a song goes through, the more it changes. If the story of the song is sufficiently powerful, maybe we end up with many different ways to tell that story; if not, maybe we end up, eventually, with lots of totally different songs, each with the same ancestor. They are folk songs.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-body-p\"><span class=\"body-c-c1\">Of course, this happens less today because there are so many recorded sources, and people to say, &#8220;<em>That\u2019s not the way it is on the record<\/em>.&#8221; But it still does happen. If you do a web search on the word &#8220;mondegreen&#8221;, you will find many sites devoted to people\u2019s mis-hearing of popular songs. The word &#8220;mondegreen&#8221; comes from author Silvia Wright, who, as a child, misunderstood a line from an old Scottish ballad, <\/span><em><span class=\"body-c-c2\">The Bonnie Earl of Murray<\/span><\/em><span class=\"body-c-c1\">:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"body-p-p1\"><span class=\"body-c-c2\"><em>They hae slain the Earl o&#8217; Murray<\/em> \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0[hae = have]<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c2\"><br \/>\n<em>And laid him on the green.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-body-p\"><span class=\"body-c-c1\">Silvia heard,<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"body-p-p1\"><em><span class=\"body-c-c2\">They hae slain the Earl o&#8217; Murray<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c2\"><br \/>\nAnd Lady Mondegreen<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-body-p\"><span class=\"body-c-c1\">She wrote about this in a 1954 <\/span><span class=\"body-c-c2\">Harper&#8217;s <\/span><span class=\"body-c-c1\">magazine article and coined the term &#8220;mondegreen&#8221; to denote such misheard words and phrases.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-body-p\"><span class=\"body-c-c1\">My favorite, which I used to illustrate &#8220;the folk process&#8221; in lecture concerts for 40 years, is from old friend Hugh Hanley. When I met him, he was teaching school in Kansas City, MO, in 1968. He told me that he had heard one of his students singing that Bob Dylan song which is supposed to go, <\/span><span class=\"body-c-c2\">&#8220;<em>The answer, my friends, is blowing in the wind; the answer is blowing in the wind<\/em>.&#8221;<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c1\"> But Hugh\u2019s 8-year-old student sang, <\/span><span class=\"body-c-c2\">&#8220;<em>The ants are my friends, they\u2019re blowing in the wind; the ants are blowing in the wind<\/em>.&#8221;<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c1\"> Another famous &#8220;Mondegreen&#8221; is Jimi Hendrix\u2019s <\/span><span class=\"body-c-c2\">&#8220;<em>Excuse my while I kiss the sky<\/em>&#8221; <\/span><span class=\"body-c-c1\">often heard as, <\/span><span class=\"body-c-c2\">&#8220;<em>Excuse me while I kiss this guy<\/em>&#8220;.<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c1\"> Or Creedence Clearwater Revival\u2019s <\/span><span class=\"body-c-c2\">&#8220;<em>Don\u2019t go out tonight, there\u2019s a bad moon on the rise<\/em>&#8221; <\/span><span class=\"body-c-c1\">being heard as,<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c2\"> &#8220;<em>Don\u2019t go out tonight, there\u2019s a bathroom on the right<\/em>&#8220;<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c1\">. There are godzillions of \u2018em.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-body-p\"><span class=\"body-c-c1\">The above examples are merely mis-hearing of words, but sometimes these are likely to lead to other changes, if nobody refers back to the original. I once heard three kids sing a Beatles\u2019 song, <\/span><span class=\"body-c-c2\"><em>Norwegian Wood<\/em>.<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c1\"> I noticed that they had made three errors in the words, one of which changed, for me, the meaning of the song. Instead of: <\/span><span class=\"body-c-c2\">&#8220;<em>We talked until two, and then she said, it\u2019s time for bed<\/em>&#8220;,<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c1\"> they sang: <\/span><span class=\"body-c-c2\">&#8220;<em>She talked until two, and then she said, it\u2019s time for bed.<\/em>&#8221; <\/span><span class=\"body-c-c1\">That gave me a whole different picture of what went on that night. It would be easy for someone learning that version to accidentally or purposely change other parts to more closely fit that different image.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-body-p\"><span class=\"body-c-c1\">But the best way songs change, in my opinion, is accidentally-on-purpose. Someone hears a song, sings it the way they thought they heard it, but subconsciously changes it to fit their personal view of something. My favorite example is from long ago when my friend Tony Saletan heard his little daughter singing in the bathtub. She was singing the James Taylor song, <\/span><em><span class=\"body-c-c2\">Sweet Baby James<\/span><\/em><span class=\"body-c-c1\">, which has a line, <\/span><span class=\"body-c-c2\">&#8220;<em>Deep greens and blues are the colors I choose; won\u2019t you let me go down in my dreams<\/em>&#8220;.<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c1\"> That\u2019s a bit abstract for a 4-year-old, and her subconscious had changed it into something more meaningful to her. She was splashing happily in the tub, but she sang, <\/span><span class=\"body-c-c2\">&#8220;<em>Deep greens and blues are the colors I choose; don\u2019t you let me go down the drain.<\/em>&#8220;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-body-p\"><span class=\"body-c-c1\">Every folk song starts out being made up by someone. But going through lots of people, it changes. It\u2019s the cumulative effect of all of those changes, large and small, that makes it a folk song. So, by that definition, if you know who wrote it, it\u2019s not a folk song. Sure, you can know who wrote the original version, years ago and miles away, but not who wrote the version you\u2019re singing, or hearing now, because Nobody, or Anon., or lots of people helped to write it. There are people today singing songs they learned from someone who learned \u2018em from someone, who learned \u2018em from someone, stretching all the way back to the Middle Ages and beyond &#8212; even to Greek myths &#8212; in an unbroken oral tradition.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-body-p\"><span class=\"body-c-c1\">In this long process, forgettable parts of a song get forgotten and memorable parts get remembered. So songs can get more concentrated and powerful, as they travel. Someone makes up a song. Someone else hears it and likes it enough to go to all the trouble to learn it. Someone else hears them and also learns it, and so on. It\u2019s a kind of voting &#8212; if they all liked a song that much, to go to the trouble to learn it, it must be &#8220;good&#8221;. You could say that good old song has a whole lot of &#8220;votes&#8221; for it. Not votes from some committee of self-appointed Authorities, but from the folk.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-body-p\"><span class=\"body-c-c1\">So it bugs me when I hear people say, &#8220;<em>I wrote a folk song<\/em>.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-body-p\"><span class=\"body-c-c1\">&#8220;<em>You wish<\/em>&#8220;, I think to myself.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-body-p\"><span class=\"body-c-c4\">If you know who wrote it, it\u2019s not a folk song.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-body-p\"><span class=\"body-c-c1\">By the way, the reverse is not necessarily true: if you don\u2019t know who wrote it, it could just mean that you need to do some research.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-body-p\"><span class=\"body-c-c1\">Most of today\u2019s &#8220;singer-songwriters&#8221; are writing stuff that\u2019s indistinguishable from pop music. Those who become popular, in the commercial sense, usually do become pop singers. So I think that almost all of what the industry calls &#8220;folk music&#8221; these days is really just low-budget pop music. If those low-budget pop\/&#8221;folk&#8221; singers could afford it, they\u2019d have elaborate backups and music videos, etc.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-body-p\"><span class=\"body-c-c1\">So why are all these new songs called folk songs? I think it\u2019s because there isn\u2019t another nice-sounding phrase to describe them. Calling \u2018em &#8220;folk&#8221; songs gives them an undeserved stamp of pre-approval. Please, please, someone come up with a pretty phrase to replace &#8220;folk songs&#8221; for these singer-songwriters.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-body-p\"><span class=\"body-c-c1\">A folk song is a song that has evolved through the oral process. Someone may have written a song to start, but that wasn\u2019t really a folk song; it is the cumulative effect of all the changes on the song as it travels from person to person that make it a &#8220;folk&#8221; song. (<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c0\">Or a &#8220;traditional&#8221; song, as some say, in attempt to get away from the confusion; but, alas, I have heard people say they just wrote a traditional song.<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c1\">)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-body-p\"><span class=\"body-c-c1\">I would like to separate the phrases &#8220;folk song&#8221; and &#8220;folk music&#8221; here, because I think of the former as a type of song but the latter as a process. I have come to the opinion that folk music is what happens when (<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c0\">usually<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c1\">) money is not involved. Even if I sing an entire concert of old &#8220;traditional&#8221; (<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c0\">oral process<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c1\">) songs, if I\u2019m being paid to do it, or if people have paid to listen, it\u2019s not folk music. It\u2019s show business. So I don\u2019t call myself a folk singer; I\u2019m an entertainer who sings a few folk songs. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-body-p\"><span class=\"body-c-c1\">When money isn\u2019t involved, the &#8220;audience&#8221; is more likely to also be participants. That is, it\u2019s more likely to be a song-swap, even if not everyone sings. I\u2019m also inclined to the notion that the larger the audience, the less \u201cfolk\u201d is happening. So I think Ken Goldstein was partly right &#8212; if we\u2019re all gathered around the piano singing <\/span><span class=\"body-c-c2\"><em>I Left My Heart In San Francisco<\/em>,<\/span><span class=\"body-c-c1\"> we may not be singing a folk song, but we probably are doing folk music at that moment.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-body-p\"><span class=\"body-c-c2\"><em>No one remembers the singer. The song remains<\/em>. <\/span><span class=\"body-c-c1\">&#8211; Terry Pratchett<br \/>\n____<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.michaelcooney.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Michael Cooney<\/strong><\/a> <span class=\"_Tgc\">(born 1943, Carmel, California) is an American folk\u00a0 musician who performed in the 1960s folk revival. He is known for singing Real folk songs, old popular &amp; novelty songs, found songs of wit &amp; wisdom, and performing at, and organizing, many folk festivals. For twenty years Michael was a director of, contributor to, and columnist for the US&#8217;s oldest national folk music magazine, <a href=\"https:\/\/singout.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Sing Out!<\/a> He now lives in the small lobster-fishing village of Friendship, on the rocky coast of Maine. This article was reprinted, with permission, from his web site <a href=\"http:\/\/www.michaelcooney.com\/whatsfolk.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a>.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The late Kenneth Goldstein of Philadelphia was one of the great American folklorists. (He was also a generous man who shared his knowledge and vast library of recordings, books, etc., and his home, with people like me. I will be ever grateful to him and his gracious wife Rochelle for their hospitality.) Every couple of &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/pnwfolklore.org\/wp-nwhoot\/index.php\/2017\/09\/21\/if-you-know-who-wrote-it-its-not-a-folk-song-by-michael-cooney\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;If You Know Who Wrote It, It&#8217;s Not A Folk Song, by Michael Cooney&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[7,3],"tags":[20,52,45,44,51],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/pnwfolklore.org\/wp-nwhoot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/947"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/pnwfolklore.org\/wp-nwhoot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/pnwfolklore.org\/wp-nwhoot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/pnwfolklore.org\/wp-nwhoot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/pnwfolklore.org\/wp-nwhoot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=947"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"http:\/\/pnwfolklore.org\/wp-nwhoot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/947\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":954,"href":"http:\/\/pnwfolklore.org\/wp-nwhoot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/947\/revisions\/954"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/pnwfolklore.org\/wp-nwhoot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=947"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/pnwfolklore.org\/wp-nwhoot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=947"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/pnwfolklore.org\/wp-nwhoot\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=947"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}